Sound Off with Matt Pinfield

Episode Number: 108

Episode Title: Korn

Description: Matt sits down with grunge-metal Korn front man, Jonathan Davis, whose lyrics have made the group a favorite among headbangers with brains. Drawing heavily from his own adolescent experiences to sustain anger that reeks of authenticity, Jonathan discusses the beginnings of the band, rock and roll excesses, and the new release, See You On The Other Side. An intimate portrait of one of the most successful rock acts today.

Transcript:

HEY IT'S MATT PINFIELD WELCOME TO SOUND OFF. I'M IN TIMES SQUARE AT THE W HOTEL, WITH ONE OF MY FAVORITE ARTISTS, ONE OF MY OLDEST FRIENDS JONATHAN DAVIS FROM KORN, JONATHAN IT'S SO GOOD TO HAVE YOU BROTHER. YOU TOO BRO WHAT'S GOING ON. GOOD TO SEE YOU MAN, WE GO BACK YOU AND I LIKE THE VERY BEGINNING. A DECADE DUDE. YEAH IT'S 10 YEARS NOW WHICH IS AMAZING. AND YOU GUYS I MEAN I JUST HAVE TO SAY AS YOU KNOW THAT, YOU HAVE INSPIRED AND INFLUENCED SO MANY BANDS AND HAVE ACTUALLY CHANGED THE GENRE OF ROCK. AND SO FEW BANDS ACTUALLY DO HAVE THAT INSPIRATION AND THAT INFLUENCE. AND IT'S JUST SO GREAT TO STILL SEE YOU DOING IT, AND THE NEW RECORD IS AWESOME. THANK YOU. SEE YOU ON THE OTHER SIDE. I MEAN WERE GONNA GO BACK AND TALK ABOUT YOUR HISTORY BUT LET'S ACTUALLY TALK ABOUT THE NEW RECORD NOW BECAUSE I THINK IT. I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT. WHEN I HEARD TWISTED TRANSISTOR I WAS LIKE WOW, I MEAN IT JUST HAD THAT KIND OF COOL, THAT DARK. DARK DANCY KIND OF. GROOVE. GROOVY VIBE TO THAT SONG. THE WHOLE ALBUM, YOU CAN'T JUDGE A WHOLE ALBUM BY THAT ONE SONG. EVERYTHING ON THIS ALBUMS VERY. DIFFERENT EACH SONG'S GOT IT'S OWN VIBE GOING ON, UM WE HAD A REALLY GOOD TIME WORKING WITH ATTICUS ROSS AND, AND THE MATRIX. UM WHEN WE FIRST STARTED TO DO THE RECORD, WE WORKED WITH A WHOLE BUNCH OF DIFFERENT PEOPLE. UM I SAID I WANTED TO DO THIS EXPERIMENT, I WAS TIRED OF WORKING WITH JUST REGULAR ROCK PRODUCERS WHO WORK WITH EVERY GREAT ROCK PRODUCER THERE WAS AND. I FELT LIKE IT WAS TIME FOR US TO PUSH THE ENVELOPE WITH HEAD LEAVING THE BAND. AND THAT WAS WE WERE ONLY A 4 PIECE IT'S TIME TO REALLY, LET'S JUST GO OUT THERE AND SEE WHAT WE CAN MAKE AND DO SOMETHING CRAZY, SO I CAME UP WITH A WILD IDEA TO WORK WITH UH LIKE POP PRODUCERS. ME AND THE MATRIX, WE WORKED WITH DALLAS AUSTIN, GLEN BALLARD, MARK HUDSON, LINDA PERRY, UH, THE MATRIX AND ATTICUS. AND UH WE FELT THAT WE COULD MAKE THE BEST RECORD WITH ATTICUS AND THE MATRIX AND SO WE WENT ON. SO YOU TRIED TO FUSE THOSE OTHER PEOPLE JUST SO. YEAH WE WORKED AND WE WROTE A WHOLE BUNCH OF STUFF. YEAH WE WROTE SOME COOL STUFF. IT WAS, JUST WE WERE TRYING TO FIND THE RIGHT VIBE. AND SOME OF THE PRODUCERS LASTED MAYBE AN HOUR AND IT WAS LIKE WE KNOW THIS ISN'T GONNA WORK. UM SOME LASTED A COUPLE WEEKS, UM BUT ULTIMATELY IT WAS YOU KNOW THOSE 2 WENT OUT. AND IT WAS REALLY FUN TO WORK WITH THEM CAUSE WE NEVER HAD PEOPLE THAT ACTUALLY WRITE MUSIC COME IN AND WORK WITH US UM. THEY DIDN'T WRITE ANYTHING FOR US, IT WAS MORE OF, WE WERE COLLABORATING AND LIKE WITH THE MATRIX. IT WAS FUN FOR THEM BECAUSE THEY'RE USED TO GOING IN AND WORKING WITH LIKE POP GIRLS AND. WHAT OTHER BANDS WHERE THEY HAND THEM A SONG AND SAY HERE YA GO. UM THIS TIME AROUND THEY GOT TO COLLABORATE WITH US AND WE ACTUALLY WROTE TOGETHER SO THAT WAS REALLY REALLY FUN. THAT WAS COOL I BET. I MEAN CAUSE OBVIOUSLY THEY DID, AVRIL'S YOU KNOW COMPLICATED. WHICH IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST POP SONGS OF THE LAST 10 YEARS, AND A GREAT POP SONG BY THE WAY. IT IS IT'S GOOD. AND UH, IT WAS COOL WORKING WITH THEM TOO RIGHT CAUSE I MEAN THEY OBVIOUSLY HAVE A HISTORY IN ROCK THAT THEY LOVE TOO RIGHT? THEY LOVE IT WELL THEY FEEL LIKE THEY'VE BEEN PIGEON HOLED WITH THE WHOLE POP THING. THEY REALLY WANTED TO PROVE THEMSELVES AND DO SOMETHING DARK, THEY'RE JUST LIKE. OH I'M SICK OF THIS BUBBLEGUM STUFF. LET'S GO DO SOME, SOME COOLER STUFF. SO LAUREN GRAHAM AND SCOTT CAME AND, WE HAD A BLAST WITH THEM AND THEY BECAME REALLY GOOD, GOOD FRIENDS OF MINE AND I LOVE THEM TO DEATH. UM SAME THING WITH ATTICUS, ATTICUS HAD BEEN IN A BAND CALLED 12 ROUNDS. WHICH WAS SIGNED TO NOTHING ON TRENT'S LABEL. RIGHT TRENT HAD THEM THAT WAS THE. WITH THE GIRL, WAS THE GIRL. WITH UH ATTICUS'S WIFE. SHE WAS A SINGER AT THE TIME. YEAH AND UH, THEN ATTICUS ENDED UP DOING TRENT'S ALBUM WITH TEETH DOING ALL THE PROGRAMMING ALL THAT STUFF. AND THEN UH, SO THEN HE BEGAN, BECAME A PRODUCER AND THEN WE GRABBED HIM. WE DIDN'T KNOW HOW IT WAS GONNA BE. WERE LIKE CHECK THIS OUT HE CAME IN ON THE FIRST DAY AND HE HAD THIS KIND OF LIKE NEW ORDER ISH TYPE OF VIBE WITH LIKE SOME DRUM PROGRAMMING AND SOME STUFF GOING ON I'M LIKE I DON'T THINK THIS IS GONNA WORK MAN, WE WERE LIKE I'M GONNA KEEP TRYING SO I KEPT ON GOING FOR A COUPLE OF DAYS AND THEN ME AND HIM WROTE THE MOST AMAZING SONG HE KIND OF GOT WHAT WE WERE GOING FOR, WE GOT HIS VIBE. AND UH WE WROTE THIS SONG CALLED LAST LEGAL DRUG. WHICH IS ON THE SPECIAL EDITION OF, OF OUR ALBUM. AND UH THE REST WAS. WAS DONE WE JUST WROTE THEM AMAZING. THOSE ARE THE MOST EXPERIMENTAL SONGS WE DID WITH HIM. I ENDED UP PLAYING LIKE ABOUT 20 DIFFERENT INSTRUMENTS SOME OF THOSE, LIKE REALLY WEIRD ETHNIC INSTRUMENTS. EVERYTHING FROM GLASS HARMONICA, THAT'S AN INSTRUMENT YOU PLAY GLASS BOWLS. YOU KNOW LIKE YOU DO A WINE GLASS. UM PLAYED THAT FROM LIKE DIDGERIDOO'S TO JUST, GOAT HOOVES DIFFERENT KINDS OF ETHNIC DRUMS. ALL KINDS OF WEIRD STUFF. TOY PIANOS, ACCORDIONS. YEAH THAT'S COOL. WE HAD REALLY A LOT OF FUN JUST MESSING AROUND IN OUR STUDIO. WELL YOU'VE ALWAYS BEEN THAT KIND OF GUY ANYWAY I MEAN FROM THE BAGPIPES TO EVERYTHING ELSE, YOU'VE ALWAYS EXPERIMENTED WITH A LOT OF DIFFERENT INSTRUMENTS. JUST TRYING, YEAH JUST TRYING OUT EVERYTHING, ORCHESTRAS EVERY, WE JUST DID EVERYTHING. SO IT WAS REALLY REALLY FUN. DID THE OTHER GUYS HAVE AS MUCH FUN, DID THEY HAVE A LOT OF FUN WITH IT DID DAVID? DAVID AND FIELDY AND MONK, MONK REALLY STEPPED UP MAN ON THIS ONE BECAUSE, HE HAD. HE WAS FREAKING OUT HEAD LEFT BECAUSE YOU KNOW WE ALWAYS HAD HEAD TO UH BOUNCE IDEAS OFF OF AND HEAD'S AN AMAZING MUSICIAN AND COMES UP WITH AMAZING MELODIES SO. YOU KNOW WHEN HE LEFT I THINK HE FREAKED OUT. AND I FELT LIKE I KIND WAS KIND OF LIKE THE ROCK WITHIN THE BAND KEEPING EVERYBODY GOING, YEAH THIS IS GOING TO BE FINE DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT. UM CAUSE ALL 4 OF US JUST LOVE DOING WHAT WE DO. AND WE DIDN'T THINK IT WAS LIKE TIME TO STOP. BECAUSE SOMEONE THAT REALLY NEEDED TO LEAVE LEFT. SO MONK IT TOOK HIM A COUPLE OF WEEKS, HE WAS WORRIED ABOUT HOW AM I GONNA WRITE THESE SONG. HOW AM I GONNA PLAY THEM LIVE, AND HE ACTUALLY STOPPED AND HE STARTED THINKING OF THEM IN THE NOW LIKE I'M GONNA JUST EXPERIMENT AND I'M GONNA DO 18 GUITAR TRACKS AND IT'S GONNA BE GREAT. THAT'S COOL. AND HE REALLY STEPPED UP, AND I HAD TO COME IN AND STRIP A LOT OF STUFF OUT CAUSE HE WENT CRAZY BUT. CAUSE HE WAS TRYING TO LIKE KIND OF OVER COMPENSATE RIGHT. HE HAD SO MANY OPTIONS TO UM MAKE THIS ALBUM GREAT, HE REALLY DID GOOD. FIELDY STEPPED UP HE WANTED TO, TO CHANGE HIS TONE AND, AND JUST DO SOME SOMETHING DIFFERENT. HE WASN'T SO GUNG HO ON HIS CLACKY BASS TONE THAT HE EVERYONE KNOWS FROM. SO THAT OPENED US UP TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

AND YOU LOOK AT ALL THOSE EARLY TOURS YOU DID IN THE BEGINNING. OH BRO. I MEAN LET'S THINK ABOUT ALL THE DIFFERENT BANDS YOU PLAYED WITH WITHER IT WAS LIKE. FIRST TOUR WAS, WAS HOUSE OF PAIN AND BIOHAZARD. RIGHT, AND YOU GUYS WERE THE OPENING ACT TOO RIGHT. OPENING ACT AND BIOHAZARD WAS SUCH PRICKS TO US. I'LL NEVER FORGET. DO YOU GIVE EM CRAP NOW DO YOU EVER SEE EVAN AND GO HEY DUDE. NO ME AND EVAN ARE COOL, IT'S ALL GOOD. HE'S A GOOD GUY. I LOVE EVAN YEAH HE'S A BROTHER. YEAH HE'S GREAT BUT IT THE BEGINNING HE WAS LIKE, YEAH WE HAD A GUITAR SITTING THERE AND WE HAD TO SHARE A DRESSING ROOM AND HE'S ALL GET THAT OUTTA HERE AND YOU CAN'T DO THIS. AND JUST TOTALLY INTIMIDATED THE HELL OUT OF US. HOUSE OF PAIN WAS, WAS COOL TO US. UM WELL THAT WAS OUR FIRST KIND OF TOUR WE DID AN RV. UM THAT BROKE DOWN ALL, EVENTUALLY BURNT DOWN TO THE GROUND. WHERE'D IT BURN DOWN, WHAT DID IT LIGHT A FIRE ACTUALLY WHILE YOU WERE ON THE ROAD. IT LIGHT ON FIRE IN HARTFORD CONNECTICUT. YEAH. WE WERE STUCK THERE FOR A COUPLE DAYS. AND THE THING BURNED IT BURNED, ELECTRICAL FIRE. HOW, HOW'D YOU GET OUT I MEAN WERE YOU GUYS SLEEPING WAS IT DAYTIME WAS IT. NO WE WERE GOING DOWN THE ROAD AND IT JUST STARTED GOING, BZUH AND YOU LIKE THE WIRE WAS LIKE BUGZH AND IT JUST CAUGHT FIRE IT WAS CRAZY. THAT'S AMAZING. HOW DID YOU GET OUT OF THERE AT FIRST. DID YOU GET LIKE, DID SOMEONE COME AND RESCUE YOU, DID YOU RENT A VAN? UH WE GOT A COUPLE VAN'S AND ME AND MONK WERE ASSIGNED TO THE UH THE GEAR VAN. WITH A GUY NAMED SEAN OLSON. AND UH. AND THEN THE OTHER VAN WAS WITH JEFF, UH JEFF CRESE. AND HE WAS DRIVING THAT AND UM, IT WAS CRAZY MAN I WAS SLEEPING ON PHILLY' BASS CABINETS WE GET PULLED OVER BY THE COPS. ALL THE, IT WAS JUST CRAZY. CRAZY EARLY TOUR STUFF RIGHT? EARLY TOURS YOU KNOW BEING IN A VAN, I MEAN WE'VE DONE IT ALL. AND THEN THE NEXT TOUR WE WENT INTO A BUS IT WAS LIKE SOME 1960, WHATEVER. AND WHAT TOUR WAS THAT AFTER THAT WE DID, SICK OF IT ALL. THERE WERE A BUNCH. AND ORANGE NINE MILLIMETER. YOU ALSO DID FEAR FACTORY AT ONE TIME TOO OR WAS THAT. AND THEN AFTER THAT IT WAS MARILYN MANSON, DANZIG. AND THEN FEAR IT WAS MEGADETH, FEAR FACTORY, FLATS MAN, JET SET, WE PLAYED WITH KMFDM. YEAH YOU DID LIKE INDUSTRIAL BANDS, YOU DID METAL BANDS YOU DID LIKE THE WHOLE. WE DID ALL OVER THE PLACE, THE DEFTONES. WE WENT ON THE SICK OF IT ALL TOUR, WE WENT OUT WITH US. LIKE I SAID ORANGE NINE MIL. YEAH, TOUR WITH OZZY TOO. YEAH WITH OZZY UM. IT'S AMAZING WHAT YOU THINK. ALL KINDS OF DIFFERENT TOURS. IT'S AMAZING BECAUSE I THINK THAT KIND, MIGHT EXPLAIN, I MEAN OBVIOUSLY YOU GUYS WERE, WERE CUTTING YOUR OWN GROUND. YOU GUYS WERE DOING SOMETHING THAT WAS COMPLETELY NEW, AND PEOPLE WERE FALLING IN LOVE WITH THE BAND. BUT YOU WERE TOURING WITH SO MANY OTHER KINDS OF BANDS TOO. THEY DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO CLASSIFY US. WHICH WAS COOL IN A WAY RIGHT. NO IT WAS REALLY COOL, IT WAS REALLY COOL. WE WERE JUST BATTLING AT THAT TIME TO GET OVER THE WHOLE METAL MONIKER BECAUSE. THAT WAS JUST AT THAT TIME WAS REALLY A BAD TASTE IN YOUR MOUTH, IT CAME FROM THE HAIR BAND DAYS SO. WE WERE TRYING TO BE, DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT. AND SO WE'D GET ON THESE REALLY COOL, WITH THE OTHER COOL BANDS AND THEN WE HAVE TO GO DO YOU KNOW. WELL THE MEGADETH THAT WAS THAT WAS PRETTY UH WHATEVER YOU KNOW WE GOT BUCK KNIVES THROWN AT US AND. I REMEMBER ONE, ONE NIGHT WE LOOK BACK AND THERE WAS A KNIFE STICKING IN MONKEY'S CABINET AND FANS TRIED TO STAB US WITH. LIKE ALL KINDS OF CRAZY STUFF SO. IT'S AMAZING. IT'S, IT'S IT WAS A LONG ROAD BUT IT WAS FUN. YEAH I REMEMBER WHEN LIFE IS PEACHY CAME OUT. WHICH IS YOU KNOW I LOVE THAT SECOND ALBUM OF YOURS. AND I REMEMBER WHEN YOU WERE DOING A SHOW AT ROSELAND AND YOUR GROWN SWELL AS A BAND HAD BECOME SO INTENSE. THAT THAT, RIGHT AFTER THAT, RIGHT AT THE BEGINNING OF THAT TOUR FOR LIFE IS PEACHY. YOU JUST WERE AT ROSELAND IT WAS JUST INSANE. YEAH IT WAS NUTS. IT WAS ONE OF THE CRAZIEST CROWDS I'VE EVER SEEN IN MY LIFE UP TO THAT TIME. IT WAS. THE FANS WERE JUST. IT WAS NUTS I REMEMBER CAUSE THE FIRST TIME WE PLAYED THERE WAS WITH BIOHAZARD AND HOUSE OF PAIN, AND WE WERE SCARED WE WERE SO SCARED WE HAD BILLY, FROM BIOHAZARD GO UP AND SAY YO THIS IS CORN BE COOL CAUSE THEY WERE FROM NEW YORK. AND WE WENT UP THERE AND JUST BLEW THE WHOLE CROWD AWAY AND SO THE NEXT TIME WE DID, THE RUN, WE CAME BACK WITH LIFE IS PEACHY AND THAT PLACE WAS SOLD OUT AND IT WAS INSANE. IT WAS SOLD OUT AND IT WAS LIKE A SWELL, IT WAS UNBELIEVABLE. I REMEMBER ALL THAT GOING ON. AND THAT EVENING I WAS DOWNSTAIRS WITH YOU GUYS IN THE DRESSING ROOM, AND IT WAS THE DAY THAT YOU GOT YOUR GOLD RECORD FOR THE FIRST RECORD. WHICH WAS A REALLY EMOTIONAL MOMENT, I REMEMBER. I CRIED. YOU AND, YOU. ME AND FIELDY CRIED, YOU AND FIELDY CRIED AND IT WAS BEAUTIFUL, I THOUGHT IT WAS BEAUTIFUL ACTUALLY. I SAW YOU TWO GUYS CRY. AND I THOUGHT BECAUSE OF ALL THE HARD WORK THAT YOU HAD DONE. AND I'LL NEVER FORGET THAT MOMENT. FROM US JUST NOT HAVING ANY MONEY AND SLEEPING IN CLOSETS AND TAKING ODD JOBS AND UM. ALL THIS THE THINGS THAT I'VE GIVEN UP, LIKE MY UH, MY SON WAS BORN AND I ONLY GOT TO SPEND ONE DAY WITH HIM AND I HAD TO GET ON A PLANE AND GO TO EUROPE FOR THREE MONTHS. STUFF LIKE THAT ALL THOSE THINGS AND ALL THE HARD WORK. AND TO FINALLY GET THAT PLAQUE, YOU KNOW THAT'S WHAT EVERYONE DREAMS OF, I GOT A GOLD RECORD. YEAH, I'LL NEVER FORGET THE MOMENT YOU GOT IT, YOU GOT, THE BOTH OF YOU CRIED. BWAH HAH GOD. BUT IT WAS AWESOME AND I WAS THERE WITH YOU GUYS AND THERE WERE A FEW OF US THAT WERE THERE WITH YOU GUYS THAT MOMENT AND UM. IT WAS BOSS AND. IT WAS A GREAT MOMENT. IT WAS REALLY COOL. AND, AND OBVIOUSLY IT WAS YOU KNOW, PEOPLE THAT WERE FANS KNEW THAT IT WAS THE START OF SOMETHING, SOMETHING AMAZING. OH BEFORE IT OBVIOUSLY THEN, THEN LIFE IS PEACHY. I MEAN OBVIOUSLY ENTERING IN THE BILLBOARD CHARTS AT NUMBER 3. YEAH LIFE IS PEACHY WAS AT THREE. IT WAS COOL, CAUSE IN A LOT OF WAYS IT WAS VINDICATION BECAUSE. A LOT OF PEOPLE DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO CLASSIFY YOU OR KNEW WHAT WAS GOING ON IT WAS A NEW THING. SOME WHATEVER. AND REALLY RAISED A LOT OF EYELIDS WOKE A LOT OF PEOPLE UP. YEAH THEY GO 3. WHEN WE FOUND THAT OUT, ME AND FIELDY CRIED AGAIN. THAT'S AMAZING THAT'S GREAT. LIKE WERE NUMBER THREE RIGHT NOW. AND THAT WAS WITH NO RADIO PLAY, VERY LITTLE, VERY LITTLE RADIO PLAY, VERY LITTLE MTV ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF AT THE TIME. AND WE DID THAT SO IT WAS REALLY, REALLY A COOL TIME I REMEMBER PLAYING AT A LITTLE TINNY CLUB. I THINK WE WERE AT THE NINE THIRTY CLUB IN DC OR SOMETHING. AND WHEN WE FOUND THAT OUT. WHICH IS AMAZING IT WAS A GREAT TIME. AND YOU LOOK AT THAT AND DID THAT, IS THAT WHEN THINGS REALLY STARTED TO OPEN UP WHEN YOU SAW LIKE THIS WHOLE? YEAH WE STARTED I MEAN. YOUR ALWAYS SCARED ON YOUR SECOND ALBUM, BECAUSE THAT SOPHOMORE JINX GOING ON SO. TO SEE THAT, THAT HAPPEN AND HOW MANY RECORDS WE SOLD AND TO SEE IT GO PLATINUM SO WE DID, YOU KNOW THE FIRST ONE WAS PLATINUM, AND THIS ONE WAS PLATINUM, I'M LIKE OH MY GOSH WE HAVE 2. AND SO THE REAL PRESSURE HIT ON THE THIRD ONE. YEAH. AND THAT'S WHEN THE. AND THE THIRD ONE WAS JUST, AND THAT LIKE OPENED UP. THAT'S WHEN YOU KNOW YOU GUYS BECAME THE BIGGEST ROCK BAND IN AMERICA. I MEAN IT WAS, IT ENTERED AT NUMBER 1 AND IT WAS JUST. SO TELL ME ABOUT THE PROCESS OF MAKING THAT THIRD RECORD. THIRD RECORD I CAN'T BELIEVE I'M ALIVE AFTER MAKING THAT RECORD. IT WAS JUST THE EPITOME OF ROCK AND ROLL DEBAUCHERY AND EXCESS. EVERY DAY I WAS, I DRANK A GALLON OF JACK DANIELS EVERY 2 DAYS. UM I THINK THE ENDING UH LIQUOR BILL FOR THAT PROJECT WAS OVER 50 THOUSAND DOLLARS. WOW AMAZING. JUST FOR THE BOOZE. JUST FOR THE BOOZE. NO NOT THE DRUG BILL BUT THE BOOZE. NO THAT WAS JUST THE BOOZE UM. WE HAD THIS THING CALLED KORN TV WHICH WE DID. THAT WHOLE AFTER SCHOOL THING. AFTER SCHOOL SPECIALS, AND WE CALLED THAT NO WORK THURSDAYS. WELL WE WERE THE FIRST BAND EVER TO DO A LIVE TV SHOW ON AIR ON THE INTERNET. YEAH YOU DID THE FIRST WEB CAST EVER. EVER, AND IT WAS CALLED KORN MANGLING THE WEB AND THAT LANDED US ON, IN TIME MAGAZINE CAUSE WE WERE THE FIRST BAND TO EVER DO THAT. UM WE HAD, WE HAD ADAM COROLLA HOST IT AND UM. WE HAD UM ANOTHER GUY FROM ONE OF THOSE RADIO STATIONS THAT WAS, WHO CHAMPIONED US. UM HE HOSTED IT ANOTHER DAY. AND THEN WE DID THE AFTER SCHOOL SPECIALS WE HAD ADAM COROLLA WE HAD UH. UH WE HAD RON JEREMY WE HAD LIKE ALL THESE DIFFERENT CRAZY PEOPLE. AGAIN YOU WERE THE FIRST GUYS TO BRING RON JEREMY BACK TOO. YEAH TOTALLY. BEFORE KID ROCK OR ANY OF THOSE GUYS. AND WE, ANY OF THOSE GUYS THAT HAD HIM AND UH WE HAD THESE AFTER SCHOOL SPECIALS. WE HAVE NO WORK THURSDAYS. THEY HAD A WHOLE BIG THING IN THAT TIME TO DO WEB CAST IT WAS LIKE DEAL. THERE WAS TONS OF EQUIPMENT AND, AND ALL THIS STUFF THEY HAD TO BRING IN SO WE DID THE SHOW AND UH WE'D RECORD AND THERE WAS TIMES I WOULDN'T EVEN RECORD UNLESS I HAD AN 8 BALL AND A WHOLE BUNCH OF CHICKS AND IT WAS PARTIES UNTIL AT LEAST 9, 10 IN THE AFTERNOON, OR IN THE MORNING. UH IT WAS JUST A WHOLE LOT OF PARTING AND NOT A LOT OF WORKING.

WELCOME BACK TO SOUND OFF IT'S MATT PINFIELD HERE WITH JONATHAN DAVIS, AWESOME TO HAVE YOU HERE JONATHAN AS ALWAYS. IT WAS AMAZING THAT FIRST TOUR, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT VIDEO FROM THE FIRST FAMILY VALUES. IT'S, YOU GET THAT FEELING LIKE THAT, HOW MUCH FUN YOU GUYS WERE HAVING HOW COOL IT WAS. IT WAS OUR FIRST ARENA TOUR AND WE WERE LIKE OH MY GOD WE MADE IT. LIKE THIS IS IT, LIKE I REMEMBER WHEN WE SOLD OUT THE WHISKEY THE FIRST TIME I THOUGHT WE MADE IT. BUT NOW WE REALLY MADE IT, WE WERE SELLING OUT ARENAS. I THINK THERE WAS A TIME PERIOD IN THE BAND WE ALL WENT CRAZY CAUSE WE COULDN'T UNDERSTAND THE CONCEPT OF FAME AND, AND MAKING IT. AND THEN EVERYBODY WENT A LITTLE BIT COO COO FOR A WHILE AND THEN WE SETTLED IN. BUT IT WAS JUST A GREAT TIME BEING OUT THERE WITH ALL YOUR FRIENDS. AND WE WERE F# # # # N PLAYING ARENAS. IT'S AMAZING. IT'S AMAZING. AND THEN I SAW YOU DOING STADIUMS ARENAS EVERYTHING. YEAH WE WERE DOING STADIUMS ALL THAT STUFF BUT, IT SPAWNED OFF FROM US DOING THE OZZY, THE RETIREMENT SUCKS TOUR. I REMEMBER WATCHING HIM DOING MAMA I'M COMING HOME AND ALL THE LIGHTS AND EVERYTHING AND I'M LIKE. ONE DAY MAN IT WOULD BE SO COOL IF PEOPLE WOULD COME AND SEE US IN THIS KIND OF PLACE. AND THEN I'M PLAYING THE SAME PLACES WE PLAYED, AND THERE, AND WERE HEADLINING. IT'S LIKE WHEN WE PLAYED FORTE SOL IN MEXICO CITY. 60 SOMETHING THOUSAND PEOPLE. THAT MEXICO CITY SHOW WAS IT, WAS THAT THE ISSUES OR UNTOUCHABLES TOUR WHERE YOU DID THE FIR, THE FIRST. THE FIRST ONE UNTOUCHABLES TOUR. YEAH IT WAS AMAZING RIGHT. SOLD OUT, SOCCER STADIUM. HOW MANY HUNDRED, HOW MANY THOUSAND WAS THAT. THAT WAS 65 70 THOUSAND. INCREDIBLE THAT WAS GREAT. I'M LIKE ALL, OH MY GOD THIS IS IT SO. SO THAT'S, THAT'S OUR GOAL TO DO EVERY WHERE NOW. THAT WAS AMAZING, AND BUT ISSUES TOO WAS GREAT AND LET'S TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW WHAT WAS COOL THE THING YOU DID DURING ISSUES. YOU DID THAT DEBUT THING AT APOLLO. AT THE APOLLO THEATRE. WHICH I INTRODUCED YOU GUYS THAT NIGHT. THAT WAS SO COOL TO BE THERE AND UH, UH I MEAN EVERYBODY SHOWED UP, CHRIS ROCK I MEAN YOU NAME IT, IT WAS COOL BECAUSE IT WAS LIKE. IT WAS, P DIDDY AND IT WAS CHRIS ROCK AND IT WAS ROCK PEOPLE. EVERYBODY, IT WAS A BIG ACHIEVEMENT BECAUSE. WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME SINCE BUDDY HOLLY LIKE PLAYED THE APOLLO. THE THIRD WHITE ACT TO PLAY THE APOLLO WAS US. OR IT WAS BUDDY HOLLY, DARYL HALL AND JOHN OATS, AND KORN. AND SINCE THEN WE STARTED THEN A WHOLE BUNCH OF BANDS HAVE PLAYED THERE SINCE THEN, BUT IT WAS REALLY A HISTORICAL NIGHT. AND TO HAVE YOU KNOW I WAS LOOKING AT BUSTA RHYMES AND P, DIDDY, AND CHRIS ROCK AND. AND ALL THESE ROCK PEOPLE AND. THAT NIGHT IT WAS AMAZING. EVERYONE WAS THERE AND IT WAS ALL GREAT AND I'M LIKE GOD THIS, WHAT'S UP WITH OUR BAND THIS IS INSANE. YOU DID THE ALBUM START TO FINISH TOO WHICH WAS AMAZING. WE DID THE ALBUM START TO FINISH. I GOT TO PLAY FULFILL A DREAM, I PLAYED WITH THE NEW YORK POLICE CITY PIPE BAND. THEY STARTED THE WHOLE THING OUT. AND UH, AND I JUST HAD A GOOD TIME. IT WAS GREAT. IT WAS REALLY COOL. IT WAS A GREAT NIGHT AND IT WAS BROADCAST AROUND THE WORLD AS WELL WHICH WAS A COOL THING. WAS THAT, WAS THAT A, DID YOU EVER GET NERVOUS WHEN SOMETHING LIKE THAT HAPPENS. NERVOUS. WHAT'S THAT? THAT'S NERVE RACKING. BUT THE NEXT ONE ON UNTOUCHABLES THAT WAS EVEN MORE NERVE RACKING. CAUSE WE DID THAT AT THE HAMMER, WAS IT HAMMERSTEIN? HAMMERSTEIN YEAH. AT THE HAMMERSTEIN IN NEW YORK CITY. AND WE FILMED IT LIVE AND BROADCASTED IT SATELLITE LIVE TO OVER 40 50 MOVIE UH HOUSES. OR THEATER'S. YEAH IT WAS IN THEATRES. WHICH WAS ANOTHER THING THAT WAS A FIRST BECAUSE PEOPLE HADN'T DONE THAT IN YEARS AND THEN PRINCE DID IT, A TON OF OTHER PEOPLE STARTED DOING THIS THING WHERE, WERE GONNA DO THIS IN THE THEATRE. IT HADN'T BEEN DONE BELIEVE IT OR NOT SINCE LIKE THE BEACH BOYS DID IT LIKE IN THE 60'S IT HAD BEEN A LONG TIME SINCE. BEACH BOYS DID THAT IN THE 1960'S. IT'S ANOTHER COOL THING THAT YOU GUYS BROUGHT BACK AND, YEAH WE BROUGHT IT BACK AND THEN WE DID IT AND A WHOLE BUNCH OF OTHER PEOPLE STARTED DOING IT. SO YOU KNOW AND THEN THAT WAS, THAT WAS A FUN, FUN NIGHT BUT IT WAS CRAZY BECAUSE WE WERE ACTUALLY SHOOTING A MOVIE AND PEOPLE WATCHING IN REAL TIME. NO WORRY, THAT'S NOT A LOT OF PRESSURE RIGHT? NO THERE'S NO PRESSURE AT ALL. AND THEN WE GOT REPORTS THAT KIDS WERE MOSHING IN THE THEATRES AND IT WAS JUST AMAZING. OH THAT'S JUST GREAT. IT WAS AN INCREDIBLE NIGHT. YEAH IT WAS REALLY REALLY COOL. HOW WAS IT, THE TIME OFF BETWEEN THIS ALBUM AND LAST STUFF. HAS IT BEEN COOL JUST HANGING OUT LIKE JUST GETTING SOME TIME TO YOURSELF. I MEAN CAUSE YOU SPENT SO MUCH TIME ON THE ROAD. I HAD NO TIME AT ALL, WE DID WE DID. RIGHT AFTER UNTOUCHABLES WE WENT RIGHT BACK IN AND DID TAKE A LOOK IN THE MIRROR. WENT OUT TOURED THAT CAME BACK. UM FIGURED, FOUND OUT WE COULD GET OUT OF OUR DEAL WITH SONY IF WE DID A GREATEST HITS. GOT THE GREATEST HITS TOGETHER. WENT OUT AND DID THE GREATEST HITS TOUR. AND IT DID GREAT BY THE WAY. IT WAS AWESOME, IT WAS AN AWESOME TOUR. THEN HEAD LEFT, WE STARTED WRITING THIS ALBUM. SO I, WE'VE HAD, THE LAST 12 YEARS WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY REALLY TIME OFF. YOU REALLY HAVEN'T NO. BUT YOU HAVEN'T REALLY WANTED IT EITHER THOUGH I MEAN YOU LOVE IT. NO I'M CRAZY I LOVE IT. I MEAN I'M GONNA DO IT WHILE I CAN. I'LL HAVE TIME TO REST WHEN I'M LIKE 60 OR SOMETHING. YEAH. I'M GONNA BE LIKE OZZY. YEAH. OR EVEN LIKE LIPPO, LEMMY'S 60 NOW ISN'T HE? YEAH HE IS, AND HE'S STILL SITTING AT THE CORNER OF THE RAINBOW. PLAYING THOSE VIDEO GAMES DRINKING JACK AND COKES. EXACTLY SO. WERE TALKING ABOUT LEMMY FROM MOTORHEAD FOLKS. UM YEAH IT'S AMAZING BUT YOU KNOW JONATHAN IT'S UH, IT'S JUST GREAT TO SEE YOU. AND YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD ALSO BRING UP IT'S, IS IT GREAT HAVING DAVID BATT PLAYING ALL THE WAY LIKE, REMEMBER THE WHOLE THING WHERE MIKE BOYAN FIELD THEN A FEW YEARS BACK. UM I MEAN. I THOUGHT IT WAS COOL IT GOES BACK TO THAT FAMILY THING THAT YOU STUCK BY HIM. DUDE IT WAS, WELL PLAYING WITH MIKE BORN FOR ONCE WAS A DREAM COME TRUE FOR ALL OF US. CAUSE YOU LOVE FAITH NO MORE. FAITH NO MORE FANS. AND SO IT WAS JUST AN HONOR TO BE PLAYING ON STAGE WITH THAT GUY. FOR ALL OF US, AND WE WERE JUST ALL WORRIED ABOUT DAVID GETTING BACK INTO IT AND HE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WAS GOING ON, HE COULDN'T EVEN HOLD HIS STICK. AND HE WENT THROUGH ALL THIS THE WHOLE YEAR WHAT WAS WRONG AND HE FINALLY FOUND OUT HE HAD A EXTRA RIB. THAT HAD GROWN THEY HAD TO GO IN THROUGH HIS ARM PIT AND TAKE IT OUT AND REHABILITATE HIM. AND UH IT WAS GREAT WHEN WE GOT BACK WITH HIM ON UNTOUCHABLES. WHEN WE DID THE UNTOUCHABLES HE WAS, HE WAS BACK WITH US. WAS THAT FIRST NIGHT LIKE WHEN YOU SAW HIM PLAYING AGAIN WITH YOU GUYS WAS IT JUST THE GREATEST. I MEAN IT WAS LIKE THE FAMILY WAS BACK TOGETHER. YEAH IT WAS ALL BACK TOGETHER. THAT'S INCREDIBLE. IT WAS GREAT. WELL YOU KNOW WERE SO EXCITED ABOUT THE NEW RECORD WHICH IS GREAT, LET'S TALK ABOUT THE NEW VIDEO YOU GOT ALL THE HIP HOP DUDES TO DO IT WHICH YOU GUYS HAVE ALWAYS DONE COOL VIDEOS. THE WORD UP VIDEO, WHICH WAS GREAT I MEAN I LOVE CAMEO. WHY, DO YOU LOVE THAT SONG IS THAT WHY YOU DECIDED TO DO WORD UP OR WAS IT JUST LIKE. YEAH WE ALL LOVE THAT SONG BUT YOU KNOW WE'VE BEEN COVERING THAT SONG SINCE THE FIRST CORN ALBUM. WE USED TO DO THAT IN SOUND CHECKS AND WIG PEOPLE OUT. LIKE ARE THEY PLAYING WORD UP? LIKE, IT WAS LIKE A JOKE BUT WHEN WE WERE DOING ALL THESE DIFFERENT COVERS CAUSE WE ARE GONNA DO A COVER ALBUM, WE HAVE A WHOLE BUNCH OF SONGS. WERE GONNA DO THAT IN THE FUTURE. UM, I'M ALL LET'S TRY WORD UP AND SEE HOW IT COMES OUT. AND THEY, WE WERE ALL NO MAN THAT THING SUCKS BUT. OH COME ON GUYS LET'S JUST TRY IT, AND IT CAME OUT SO GOOD WE. IT WAS THE FIRST SINGLE OFF THE GREATEST HITS. YEAH IT'S AWESOME. AND THAT VIDEO WAS REALLY COOL TOO. WITH THE DOGS AND. IT WAS LIKE ALA LIKE BASEMENT JACK, WHERE'S YOUR HEAD AT KIND OF VIBE. YEAH, WHERE'S YOUR HEAD AT KIND OF VIBE. WHICH IS GREAT AND AGAIN THERE'S ANOTHER AREA WHERE YOU GUYS HAVE ALWAYS TRIED TO BE VERY INNOVATIVE. THE NEW VIDEO YOU GOT SOME OF THE BIGGEST NAMES OF HIP HOP. PLAYING US. TWISTED TRANSISTOR, HOW DID THAT COME ABOUT WAS IT? IT WAS ME AND EUROPE JUST THINKING I'M LIKE OH HOW ARE WE GONNA GET OUR VIDEO PLAYED ON VIDEO STATIONS THESE DAYS. AND I, AND I SAID IT IN THE PASSING OF THE JOKE I'M ALL, WE'D HAVE TO GET ALL HIP HOP PEOPLE TO BE US. AND THEN I WENT WAIT A MINUTE. THAT WOULD BE A COOL ASS VIDEO. AND THEN WE GOT WITH DAVE MYERS, AND MYERS CAME UP WITH THE IDEA OF, OF PUTTING THEM IN THIS ROCK WORLD AND TWISTING OUR LIKE, YOU KNOW SPINAL TAP. AND EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENS IN THE VIDEO HAS ACTUALLY HAPPENED TO US. I SAT WITH MYERS AND TALKED TO HIM FOR AN HOUR ABOUT THE STORIES WITHIN THE BAND. LIKE I TOLD YOU ABOUT HOW I NEEDED LIKE AN 8 BALL OF COCAINE AND, AND SOME CHICKS IN THE VIDEO YOU SEE LIL JOHN SAY I AIN'T DOING IT. THAT WAS SPAWNED FROM THAT STORY BECAUSE I NEED. ID ACTUALLY HAPPEN I WANTED DRUGS AND I WANTED CHICKS BEFORE I WOULD SING. AND UH SO, IT WAS FUN TO DO THAT AND JUST WATCH IT HAPPEN. YEAH AND JUST WATCH ALL THOSE GUYS, SNOOP AND. SNOOP BEING MONKEY AND LIL JOHN BEING ME CAUSE ME AND LIL JOHN ARE REAL TIGHT. AND I LOVE THE FACT THAT LIL JOHN BEING YOU BECAUSE YOU KNOW YOU THINK ABOUT IT YOUR LIKE. ME AND HIM ARE SO MUCH IN COMMON IT'S, IT'S SCARY WE ALWAYS SAY THAT WERE BROTHERS FROM DIFFERENT MOTHERS. BECAUSE HE HAS A SON NAMED NATHAN HIS BIRTHDAYS THE 17TH OF JANUARY MINES THE 18TH. WE BOTH WERE DJ'S IN HIGH SCHOOL, AND THE LIST GOES ON AND ON. EVERY TIME I SIT AND TALK TO HIM WERE LIKE YEAH I DID, IT'S JUST IT'S FREAKY WE GOT THIS LIKE WEIRD CONNECTION. AND WERE, WE'VE DONE MUSIC TOGETHER WE DID THE TRIPLE X SOUNDTRACK TOGETHER UM. AND WERE GONNA DO, I'M GONNA WORK ON THIS KRUNK ROCK RECORD HE'S GONNA START WORKING ON PRETTY SOON. WELL HE'S IS HE GONNA HAVE YOU, IS HE GONNA HAVE YOU IS HE THINKING ABOUT WHO ELSE IS HE THINKING ABOUT HAVING DO THAT, THE KRUNK ROCK? ME, RICK RUBEN, AND UH I'M NOT SURE WHO ELSE, I THINK UH BENJI AND THEM FROM GOOD CHARLOTTE OR SOMETHING. UM BUT UH, SHOULD BE, IT SHOULD BE COOL. IT SHOULD BE REALLY COOL THAT'S GREAT, BUT I LOVE IN THE FACT THAT IN THE END OF THE VIDEO, YOU PLAYING THE RECORD EXECUTIVE GUY. YEAH THAT WAS FUN. WHICH I THINK IS SO COOL. BECAUSE YOUR SINCE OF HUMOR BUT IT'S ALSO JUST A TOTAL AGAIN A SPINAL TAP THING AND THE SPOOF OF LIKE. SPOOF OF HIP HOP VIDEOS AND THE YEAH. CAUSE OBVIOUSLY THERE'S SO MUCH HIP HOP ON, ON THE AIR NOW AND LESS ROCK AND. YOU KNOW OBVIOUSLY WE LOVE TO SEE YOU KNOW. WE LOVE HIP HOP BUT LOVE TO SEE BOTH. YEAH SEE BOTH YEAH. SEE ROCK TOO BUT, BUT THE IDEA IS THAT IT'S JUST COOL THAT YOU GIVE IT LIKE YOU KNOW YOU NEED TO WEAR BLING. I NEED SOME, I WISH YOU COULD SEE THE OUTTAKES. DID YOU WRITE THE, DID YOU WRITE THE STUFF. THAT WAS ALL OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. YEAH IT WAS ALL FREESTYLE WE SAT DOWN AND WE JUST RIFFED OUT. UM ME AND THE GUYS AND UH, I CAME UP WITH ALL THAT STUFF BUT IT WAS ALL LIKE YOU KNOW. IT WAS JUST A SPOOF ON THEM CAUSE YOU KNOW OF HIP HOP BECAUSE THAT'S WHY I NEED TO SEE THE BOOTY SHAKING AND ALL THAT STUFF. YEAH IT'S GREAT. AND WE WERE JUST CRACKING UP. I WISH, I THINK YOU CAN GET THE OUTTAKES ON ITUNES WE, WE PUT SOME OUTTAKES UP BUT. THAT WHOLE SCENE WE DID LIKE 12 OF EM OR 15 OF EM THERE ALL HILARIOUS. THAT MUST BE AMAZING YEAH. AND YOU ACTUALLY PUT OUT LIKE YOU KNOW THE, THE OTHER SIDE YOU KNOW LIKE THE PART 1 PART 2 EP'S ON ITUNES FOR YOUR FANS, TELL ME ABOUT THAT? SO WHAT WE STARTED OFF WE DID THE FIRST ONE. WHICH WAS 4 UH 4 SONGS, I THINK IT'S 2 TWISTED TRANSISTOR REMIXES. AND A B SIDE OF EATING UP INSIDE. AND THE VIDEO. AND WHAT'S COOL ABOUT IT IS WHEN WE DID THIS NEW DEAL WITH VIRGIN WE RETAINED OUR DIGITAL RIGHTS SO FOR THE FIRST TIME IN MUSIC HISTORY, WE CAN NAME THE PRICE OF OUR MUSIC ONLINE. WHICH IS, WE SHOULD TALK ABOUT THAT TOO. YOU GUYS HAVE AGAIN, SET A NEW PRECEDENT. I MEAN YOU GUYS HAVE DONE YOU GUYS DO. I DON'T KNOW MAN WERE JUST. YOU DO IT'S LIKE, IT'S AMAZING THOUGHT IT'S A BEAUTIFUL, IT'S AN AMAZING THING IT'S AMA, IT'S GREAT. YOU GUYS HAVE AGAIN YOU SET A NEW PRECEDENT. PEOPLE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS IN THE MUSIC INDUSTRY FOR A WHILE, ON THE INDUSTRY SIDE ON THE ARTISTS SIDE. BUT ESPECIALLY ON THE ARTIST SIDE BECAUSE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN SAYING. WE WANT TO GET MORE IN THE INDUSTRY WANT TO GET MORE INVOLVED WITH BANDS BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THERE'S SO MUCH MORE THEN JUST SELLING CD'S OR THE MUSIC IT'S LIKE THERE. THE MERCHANDISE THERE'S THE LIVE CONCERTS. YOU GUYS ARE THE FIRST BAND TO ACTUALLY TO ACTUALLY DO THAT KIND OF DEAL. WHICH IS UH, IT'S AMAZING BECAUSE IT'S, THERE INVESTING IN YOU BUT IT'S ALSO YOU SHARING SO THERE'S A PARTNERSHIP. IT'S A STRAIGHT UP PARTNERSHIP IT'S 70/30 PARTNERSHIP. WHEN YOU GOT APPROACHED BY THAT WHAT DID YOU THINK WERE YOU LIKE WOW IT'S PRETTY COOL OR. WE WERE LIKE ALL FOR IT FIRST OFF BECAUSE WE THOUGHT IT WAS AN INCENTIVE DEAL. ALRIGHT WERE GONNA GIVE YOU A CUT OF OUR TOURING AND OUR MERCHANDIZE. AND YOUR GONNA GIVE US A HUGE CUT OF OUR RECORD. WE GET LIKE 70 PERCENT OF OUR RECORD SALES. SOMETHING I'VE NEVER SEEN EVER IN MY ENTIRE LIFE. RIGHT YOU KNOW. AND, AND THERE SEEING SOMETHING THE RECORD LABELS ARE SEEING STUFF THAT THEY'VE NEVER EVER SEEN. RIGHT WHICH IS PART OF YOUR TOURING BASE WHICH HAS ALWAYS BEEN STRONG. IT'S ALWAYS BEEN STRONG SO UM. IF THEY DO THEIR JOB AND PROMOTE US AND DO WHAT A RECORD LABELS SUPPOSED TO DO. THERE GONNA SEE A RETURN ON THEIR INVESTMENT. AND SO WE JUST THOUGHT IT WAS LIKE. CAUSE IT'S LIKE PULLING TEETH TO GET RECORD LABELS TO DO ANYTHING ANYMORE CAUSE. OH I KNOW. THE WAY IT IS SO, IT WAS REALLY COOL TO MEET ONES AND MEET A MAN THAT THOUGHT OUT OF BOX. AND DIDN'T CARE ABOUT WHAT OTHER LABELS THINK CAUSE WE GOT TONS OF DEALS FROM OTHER DIFFERENT LABELS. THIS REGULAR YOU KNOW RECRUITMENT DEALS. AND WERE LIKE. EVERYBODY WANTED TO SIGN YOU OF COURSE. YEAH AND WE WERE LIKE. WHATEVER MAN I'M NOT DOING THIS THE OLD WAY. THAT WAS CREATIVE YOU'VE BEEN THROUGH IT ALL. I'VE NEVER SEEN IT. SO SEEN, WE'VE SEEN IT. WITHER IT'S NUMBER 1 OR NUMBER 2 NUMBER 3 ALBUMS THAT YOU'VE HAD IT'S LIKE YOU KNOW. YOU WERE IN A GOOD POSITION TO. GOOD POSITION TO BE ABLE TO DO IT. AND SO ONE OF THE BIG POINTS OF THE DEAL WAS WE KEPT OUR DIGITAL RIGHTS WHICH, LIKE I SAID THE FIRST TIME WE SET THE PRICE FOR THOSE BUNDLES. THE LABELS LIKE OH THEY GOTTA BE 4 OR 5 BUCKS AT LEAST. YOU GOT VIDEOS AND SONGS AND WE SAID NO, A DOLLAR 98 THAT'S IT. THAT IS SUCH A COOL THING TO DO FOR YOUR FANS. SO LIKE IT'S CHEAP YOUR PAYING FOR, WHAT IS THAT HOW MUCH A VIDEO IS ON THERE NOW. AND YOU GET LIKE 5 SONGS TOO ON TOP OF IT SO. IT'S JUST COOL IT'S SOMETHING TO THROW OUT THERE FOR THE FANS AND I DON'T TAKE ADVANTAGE OF EM. YEAH, WELL YOU'VE ALWAYS BEEN FAIR TO YOUR FANS I MEAN. JONATHAN I JUST WANT TO SAY THANKS SO MUCH FOR DOING THE SHOW IT'S GREAT TO HAVE YOU HERE ON MY SHOW AND. I'M VERY HAPPY TO BE HERE WITH YOU BRO. YEAH YOU KNOW OUR FRIENDSHIP GOES BACK TO THE ACTUAL VERY BEGINNING. FROM THE VERY BEGINNINGS. SO. GOOD OLD CLUB DAYS. YEAH REMEMBER IT'S HISTORY. SO I'M SO EXCITED AND, AND ALL THE BEST OF LUCK AND I KNOW YOUR. THIS RECORDS GONNA DO GREAT AND IT'S JUST. YEAH I'M EXCITED. AWESOME TO SEE YOU. JONATHAN DAVIS OF KORN ON SOUND OFF.